2x2 chart with optimistic (and pessimistic) on one axis and realistic (and unrealistic) on the other axis

Kaleene and I have re-booted our old podcast show, The Peacemaker's Playbook, where we're learning how to be kind in divided times. New episodes are just 7(ish) minutes long and can be found in all the places you'd expect: Apple. Spotify. Youtube. Google. Stitcher.

In our most recent episode, we talk about why peacemakers must be realistic optimists.

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